Published on September 18, 2014 By kona0197 In Personal Computing

So I have a choice here. And I need some advice as I have found you all here to be the best when it comes to these things.

Basically I am having a hard time choosing what Windows system to use.

Let me start by saying I have a Pentium dual core CPU, 4 GB of RAM, and onboard video, and a 120 GB hard drive. Nothing fancy or powerful.

My options are:

* Windows Vista
* Windows 7
* Windows 8

Now here are the reasons for the choice I am trying to make:

* Windows Vista - The computer came with Vista, since I have owned it I have ran other operating systems. I have changed the CPU and motherboard. The biggest thing here is that I have a legal copy of Vista and a COA sticker on the computer. And top all of that with the fact that Vista runs quicker than snot on this setup. The downside is that Vista will not be supported much longer, a few years.

* Windows 7 - 7 runs so so on this setup, a bit slow sometimes. Problem is that I don't have a copy of 7 nor a COA for 7 in the house. So I really don't have any options with 7 other than to buy a key, and that is not an option right now. However, I like 7, when I have a machine that can run it.

* Windows 8 - I have a copy of 8 that a friend gave me as a gift. However, it runs so slow on this machine. And the whole Windows 8 look and feel is crazy weird, but it works to a point. 8 is supposed to use system resources better than 7, but that has not been my experience.

And keep in mind hard drive space. Vista has the smallest footprint. 7 and 8 take up almost 20+ GB when installed with all the updates installed.

So, what would you do? I'm currently running Vista. Maybe I should run Vista until I can afford a new machine or an upgrade?

Thanks guys!!


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on Sep 21, 2014

Sorry, I can't use Linux for my main OS. I'm a fan of Linux, just can't use it. Why? I wrote about that.

http://kona0197.wordpress.com/2011/10/10/linux-the-reasons-why-it-will-never-work-for-me/

on Sep 21, 2014

Apart the point appearence i can understand it. Linux is themeable. And the theme files are as easy as the ones from window blinds. You just have to learn how to theme without having a nice gui frontend, with .png bmp/tga  input.

Then Try Vista ! Xp is to insecure.

on Sep 21, 2014

RedneckDude

No real need for a whole extra rig for Linux. A virtual machine works just fine. Especially if you have good hardware.

Yeah, I know that, but I want to run a solely Linux machine with various Distros to experiment with.   True, VMware saves having to dual boot, but I understand that 'virtual OSes' cannot/do not access the full power of the CPU and RAM, and I want to see how well they can perform on the hardware I've allocated. 

I plan to dual or triple boot Distros of interest at a time to assess and compare which ones I like best, etc, then decide which ones I will keep running on that rig.  So yeah, it's an experimental exercise that gives me something to do, uses a machine that'd otherwise be just collecting dust, and at the same time keeps me off the street.

on Sep 21, 2014

Then add  slitaz to your testing list. really small, sometimes outdated, but fast and not umaintained. Good for seeing what linux is and learning without downloading much or the need to install it for testing purposes. VMS are slow on some pcs i do agree....

on Sep 21, 2014

starkers

CPU and RAM, and I want to see how well they can perform on the hardware I've allocated.

With VMware, you can easily assign any number of cores, and max out the ram.

With Windows 8.1, VM, I am able to have six core CPU with 8 GB ram (probably more, if I wanted.) and run a different dream on each of six monitors all at once and still be able to use my host OS.

But I suppose the host does use some of the resources, so I see your point. But all in all, who needs 6 cores and 8 GB ram for Linux?

on Sep 22, 2014

RedneckDude


Quoting starkers,

CPU and RAM, and I want to see how well they can perform on the hardware I've allocated.



With VMware, you can easily assign any number of cores, and max out the ram.

With Windows 8.1, VM, I am able to have six core CPU with 8 GB ram (probably more, if I wanted.) and run a different dream on each of six monitors all at once and still be able to use my host OS.

But I suppose the host does use some of the resources, so I see your point. But all in all, who needs 6 cores and 8 GB ram for Linux?

I think the idea for me is to play around with the various Linux flavours to see how they perform on the assigned hardware. It gives me an excuse to use a [almost] spare machine without going to great an expense OS-wise.  At a later date, when I've decided on which distros I prefer, like best, I may in fact run them in Win 8.1 using VMware.  By then Win 9 could be out, and I'll likely have a spare Win 8.1 to run on the Linux box as the host.  For the time being, though, it's more of a bit of fun to keep me off the streets... er, occupied. 

Having so much less to do with a smaller house and yard than before, I'm finding that I have alot more time on my hands and need something of interest to do/occupy my mind, and what better than messing with puters!!!

on Sep 22, 2014

Every time I've dabbled with Linux....or BeOS....or just about anything...I still end up back with Windows.....probably because I need to do 'stuff' ....

on Sep 22, 2014


Every time I've dabbled with Linux....or BeOS....or just about anything...I still end up back with Windows.....probably because I need to do 'stuff' ....

That's right, Windows has the greater software compatibility, but there are Linux distros which run Windows proggies, so the gap is gradually closing. Anyway, I will still keep Windows as my primary OS while I 'dabble' with Linux... and if one or two of the distros happen to suit my non-Windows needs then I shall see whether I run them in VMware within Win 8 or 9, or just keep them on the designated Linux rig when it's complete. 

Seems I can pick up a mobo to go with the AMD x6 1100T for about 90 bucks.  It wouldn't be top of the range stuff at that price, but it would be sufficient.  I just need to put a few pennies away for a few weeks and save for it.

on Sep 22, 2014


Every time I've dabbled with Linux....or BeOS....or just about anything...I still end up back with Windows.....probably because I need to do 'stuff' ....

lol 

on Sep 22, 2014

gevansmd

Zorin looked like a fun tool to try until I read this link which describes how to dual boot.  Can it really be this hard to do?  I didn't need to do anything special with Ubuntu.

I found it easy and that's saying a lot. If I can do it, any one can.

I used EASEUS Partition Manager to re-size my Windows Partition.

I absolutely backed up everything and anything I did not want to lose onto an external hard-drive.

The only thing that could complicate it is if you are trying to install it on a secondary hard-drive and do a dual boot that way. Windows 7 , for whatever reason, will no longer see that second hard drive. THere is a program called EASYBCD that is supposed to help with that but I had no luck with it.

I chose to resize my Windows Partition. 

Here is a link that is for installing Zorin8 that I used. http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2014/02/zorin-os-8-more-like-windows-7-than.html

I cannot find the link to the page that explained how to resize my Windows Partition, but I recall it was very easy and the program does it for you taking out the guess work. It told you the maximum space you needed to for the Windows PArtition, than I went ahaead and made my Zorin partition leaving anough space for a storage partition. http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2004816/shrink-windows-partition-losing-data.html  A lot really depends on how much stuff you have on your PC to begin with.

 

I have 320GB HD. I kept 120GB for Windows 7, 37GB of which is still free. Then my partitions are as follows

11.7GB (My Windows recovery partition)

83.8 GB (Zorin 9) which is MORE than plenty. YOu only need 5GB for the OS, the rest is gravy. You WILL BE ABLE to mount your Windows partition as a drive and access everything on it from Zorin. (Music, videos, etc.)

44.9GB for whatever.

 

I will look and see if I can find the stuff I followed. I am usually a bookmark-aholoic, but for some reason either forgot to save it or can't remember where I saved it.

The scariest part for me was condensing the Windows PArtition and reading threads like the one you found. That one is almost 3 years old and the installation has become easier and less complicated since then. I'll get back in a day or two or sooner when I find the info. If you look at the that first link, it's easy. There are also quite a few videos on youtube as well.

on Sep 22, 2014

blah blah

found my bookmarks.

Use EASEUS Partition Manager to create your partitions if you want to make partitions pre-install of Zorin. I have to thank Seth for that one. It's a great program.

Here is the Zorin site instructions. Very basic. http://zorin-os.com/installguide.html

Here are the ones I followed. http://zoringroup.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6075

It even has a link to a video the guy made which I watched while doing the install.

It really is not as complicated as it seems. It's just scary when you start pressing that 'enter' button and letting the programs do things to your hard drive and all. Thats why you back up your important stuff.

I got it on the first try and lost nothing. I've had ZERO issues and I can't say that for ANY other linux OS I have tried and I have tried a few. (From ubuntu to one called Sleazstack Puppy or something that was supposed to be fool proof and small enough to run on your little brothers etch-a-sketch) 

I even found a program that I could put on a CD that would trick my DELL 2650 into booting from the USB to install Zorin Lite on that and had no issues (that was the one I had tried to install the Sleazstackpuppy thing on).

 

on Sep 22, 2014

bluedxca93

Then add  slitaz

THAT'S the one I tried. I really liked it but a bitch of a time finding a a wireless usb or card that worked with it. I am stuck with a Belkin N150 Wireless USB adapter because of that. It's is a great OS for linux beginners but I could only use it if I used the ethernet on my laptop.

on Sep 22, 2014

My Zorin desktop. Between Dropbox and other software now made with linux in mind and Google apps like Google Drive, Hangouts, etc., I can even link/sync with my Droid, I don't miss much. It comes withLibre Office but I use Google Docs, Sheets, etc.  It's got to be one of the user friendliest versions of linux available.

on Sep 23, 2014


Every time I've dabbled with Linux....or BeOS....or just about anything...I still end up back with Windows.....probably because I need to do 'stuff' ....

 

on Sep 23, 2014

I find it funny that some had to use a third party partition resize program when almost every Linux distro out there will do that for you and it's built in.

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