Published on April 15, 2017 By kona0197 In Personal Computing

Due to the fact that I absolutely hate Contana and the way Microsoft collects data about people, I was curious if there was a good way to remove Cortana without harming the way Windows 10 works? Or should I consider buying a copy of 7? 


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on Apr 17, 2017

LightStar


Quoting WOM,

I have W7 on my machine and it still gets all the patches/updates.



 

Same here on my Windows 7 Ultimate.

Me three...

on Apr 17, 2017

benmanns

Old news... Kaby Lake is still working on windows8.1
The OS just wont auto update, you can still update the driver manual

For those who don't know, majorgeeks.com hosts all the patches and updates from MS, meaning that anyone can update any machine, regardless of MS stance on 'new' hardware.

BlackSmokeDMax

It could be pressure will have caused MS to change their stance on data collection by that time

Don't count on it!  MS recently spoke of hard-coding various advertising and data collection tools into the OS using Windows Explorer... and unlike the built-in apps, which can be uninstalled or disabled, those tools cannot be removed or disabled without completely crippling the OS.  It was rumoured they were to have been implemented with the Creator's Update, though I've not heard of anyone with the update complaining thus far.  I've not seen anything like that since updating, either, but MS decided it would go the hard-coded way because data its mining apps could be disabled, and come Hell or high water, they really, really want that data.

on Apr 17, 2017


I have W7 on my machine and it still gets all the patches/updates.

Quoting LightStar,






Quoting WOM,



I have W7 on my machine and it still gets all the patches/updates.



 

Same here on my Windows 7 Ultimate.



Me three...

LightStar

Quoting WOM,

I have W7 on my machine and it still gets all the patches/updates.



 

Same here on my Windows 7 Ultimate.

 

You all missed the gist of the subject.

 

NEW PCs reverted to the older OSes won't get the updates. MS is making it so that you have to run Windows 10 on a NEW PC. At least that is what I read from it.  Link below.

 https://www.ghacks.net/2017/03/17/microsoft-blocks-updates-for-new-cpus-on-windows-7-and-8-1/ 

http://windowsreport.com/windows-7-8-1-updates-blocked-amd-ryzen-kaby-lake/ 

 

 Windows 7 and 8.1 updates coming to an end for new computers

If you're thinking of getting a PC with the latest chips, be ready to have it run Windows 10.

on Apr 17, 2017

Sysueanyn

I've disabled it almost immediately, Cortana has appeared to be so irritating 

And if you have no use for it, why keep it?  I never gave it a chance to be irritating.  Once I'd read that it wants to know the ins and outs of everything one does and where one is, I got rid of it.  Microsoft isn't to be trusted with that much knowledge, and for those who think all this data mining is harmless, and won't affect them, well let's hope it doesn't come back to bite them on the bum.

on Apr 17, 2017

There likely to keep the ai. Now assuming there keeping the ai we will have to wait for storage to get better before we can have room to fit the wholevthing on the computer.

on Apr 17, 2017

So, a different question. Instead of removing Cortana, how do I completely disable it?

on Apr 17, 2017

kona0197

So, a different question. Instead of removing Cortana, how do I completely disable it?

Reach for your PC's microphone........speak nicely to her and ask her - politely - to go away.

on Apr 17, 2017

Leo the Lion


Quoting kona0197,

So, a different question. Instead of removing Cortana, how do I completely disable it?



Reach for your PC's microphone........speak nicely to her and ask her - politely - to go away.

Yeah, but she's a sneaky bitch!  She'll just go 'round the corner and still listen to everything he says.      

Kona, go into Settings and Privacy.  There you will find means to turn Cortana and other apps off.

on Apr 18, 2017

the block has supposedly already kicked in this month. according to the ars link i posted.

on Apr 18, 2017

alaknebs

the block has supposedly already kicked in this month. according to the ars link i posted.

 

I was able to update my new computer successfully, so either they are incorrect, or its a rolling release on that program. I received that Ryzen cpu on the 7th, and assembled/updated on the 8th and 9th.

on Apr 18, 2017

starkers


Quoting benmanns,

Old news... Kaby Lake is still working on windows8.1
The OS just wont auto update, you can still update the driver manual



For those who don't know, majorgeeks.com hosts all the patches and updates from MS, meaning that anyone can update any machine, regardless of MS stance on 'new' hardware.


Quoting BlackSmokeDMax,

It could be pressure will have caused MS to change their stance on data collection by that time



Don't count on it!  MS recently spoke of hard-coding various advertising and data collection tools into the OS using Windows Explorer... and unlike the built-in apps, which can be uninstalled or disabled, those tools cannot be removed or disabled without completely crippling the OS.  It was rumoured they were to have been implemented with the Creator's Update, though I've not heard of anyone with the update complaining thus far.  I've not seen anything like that since updating, either, but MS decided it would go the hard-coded way because data its mining apps could be disabled, and come Hell or high water, they really, really want that data.

 

No, I certainly won't count on it. I'd be shocked (happily) for sure. Honestly, thinking about the whole situation kinda bums me out. Such a disappointing change in personal computing.

on Apr 18, 2017

Leo the Lion

Quoting kona0197,

So, a different question. Instead of removing Cortana, how do I completely disable it?



Reach for your PC's microphone........speak nicely to her and ask her - politely - to go away.

And if she refuses, drag her off by her feet. Be sure to bust her lip a little.

 

on Apr 18, 2017

Still running 7, but I wouldn't buy a copy today if building a new rig. I would get a copy of 10 and figure out how to best tweak it to suit my needs.

on Apr 18, 2017

Anthony R

Still running 7, but I wouldn't buy a copy today if building a new rig. I would get a copy of 10 and figure out how to best tweak it to suit my needs.

That's probably the best solution for new rig builders these days, given that MS won't support old OSes when users opt for the most modern CPUs.

on Apr 19, 2017

Anthony R

Still running 7, but I wouldn't buy a copy today if building a new rig. I would get a copy of 10 and figure out how to best tweak it to suit my needs.

I probably would have gone that route if:

a. Setting it up one time would definitely stick. Meaning no checking after every damn update to see if they have reset to spying on you.

b. I believed that they have actually admitted to, and put in place controls to stop all of their spying. I very much doubt they have actually admitted to all the crap they have in place, even after their latest round of saying what they are actually collecting.

 

edit: For the record, I do have Win10 Pro on one PC (along side a dual boot of Ubuntu 16.04) as a test bed.