Published on June 5, 2018 By kona0197 In Personal Computing

Got me a HP laptop. I bought it early last year. It's been a great little computer. Nice and fast. Until about a week ago when we finally got internet back in the house. It used to wake from sleep and be ready for the password to get to the desktop in less then a second after I moved the mouse to wake it. It now takes up to two minutes. The time between the lock screen and when I can input my password has gone from a few seconds to thirty as well. Recent virus scans by Windows Defender and TrendMicro all say I'm clean. Malwarebytes says I have zero infections. Windows update says I have all the latest updates except the latest version of Windows 10, it was buggy so I went back to version 1709. I'm at a loss to explain why the damn thing is being slow, I can only think that Windows is doing so much in the background when booting over the internet that it is being slowed down. Should I turn off some services? Reset Windows? Any help would be appreciated. Thx. 


Comments (Page 2)
on Jun 08, 2018

admiralWillyWilber

Does malwarebytes have realtime protection on if that is true you are running two antivirus on defender, and malwarebytes that will slow down your computers.

Nah, I disable Windows Defender when running another anti-malware program, which I much prefer to do because Defender uses way too many system resources in when in 'realtime' mode.  Malwarebytes uses far less system resources and is my current choice of anti-malware live scanner.

BTW, MS says that when when Windows Defender detects another anti-malware program it will disable itself.  That is not necessarily true.  I had to manually disable Windows Defender when I installed and activated Malwarebytes, and it's not the first time I've had to do that.   I had to do it with Avast and others, so it is always a good idea to check that Defender is not running as well.... otherwise things will get sluggish.

on Jun 09, 2018

Three hours downloading

Two hours installing

One hour finding out the update dorked the computer

Two hours refreshing to factory state

Two hours setting it back up

Your weekend

Priceless.

Delete the IE Internet files whether you use it or not.

After the refresh you could try this.

on Jun 09, 2018


Three hours downloading

Two hours installing

One hour finding out the update dorked the computer

Yeah, that's too often the way with Win 10.... forced updates that bork a machine that was running okay.  I recently got a borked machine from an update, but I just did a system restore to rectify the problem.  However, I possibly could have avoided it if I hadn't unticked 'Metered Connection' in Network settings.  Anyway, I have since hidden that update and hopefully MS fixes the issues before the next one.

on Jun 17, 2018

kona0197 if you receive this transmission please tell us

if you are having any luck speeding up your computer?   

 

on Jun 19, 2018

starkers

Kona, I noticed in the last couple of days that my HP 2-in-1 was a bit sluggish after a recent Windows Update, so maybe you could investigate that as a possibility.  The fix was to do a System Restore to before the update.

Dunno if this helps but it wouldn't hurt to check it out.

I read an article on this the other day, it referenced HP PC's and Laptops specifically in which a current Windows Update is causing slow performance, crashes and even making them shut down after a while. The recommended solution was to do a system restore.

on Jun 19, 2018

LightStar

The recommended solution was

Windows 7 ...

on Jun 19, 2018



Quoting LightStar,

The recommended solution was



Windows 7 ...

Definitely!

on Jun 19, 2018

Best way to try to figure out what might be slowing startup is looking at the Windows Event log (Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Event Viewer -> Windows Logs -> System) right after a reboot.

A lot of stuff is happening so you will have to scroll down until you see events coming from Kernel-General/Kernel-Power, those usually mark the beginning of the startup process.

Pay attention to the time elapsed between each event from then on - if the time interval is unusually long (as in several seconds) then you've basically identified what is stalling startup (it's the event that takes too long to complete).

This will usually be a Service (in my system, for instance, the Razer Synapse service is well known to cause huge delays, crappy software). Under Windows 10 I don't know, but on 7 the symptoms are a bit different from what you describe though: you are able to type in a password but then you are left staring at a black screen for several seconds until the desktop appears.

This happens because all services must be started before Windows can show you the desktop. If one of them stalls, Windows will be forced to wait for a timeout from the service (usually 30 seconds) before it can proceed to start the next one, etc...

on Jun 19, 2018

The red pill.

Windows 8 was the turning point toward what we have today.

I have been observing Microsoft windows updates for quite some time.

I have observed not updating windows for quite some time.

This is the outcome from updating I have observed.

1 sabotage of the operating system itself.

2 sabotage of non Microsoft software like browsers etc.

3 new ad features which I believe actually make the device less secure.

4 a false sense of security that some people can enjoy.

Computer bugs are ripe for plausible deniability,

some might be accidental and some might be deliberate.

I leave it up to you to decide if these outcomes are deliberate

because you can believe what ever you want to believe.  

 

on Jun 19, 2018

Want to know what IS deliberate? Windows 10 *deliberately* delays the startup of 3rd party applications after a reboot by several seconds. Makes Windows appear to boot faster at the cost of other applications looking MUCH slower.

I had to come up with a devious work-around for this, as Winstep software features the type of applications you REALLY want to start at the same time as the Windows desktop.

on Jun 19, 2018

With all of the bugs , glitches, work arounds , fixes , and sluggish behavior of Windows 10 , it makes no sense to me as to why people continue to try to carry that atrocious operating system across the finish line. It truely is a text-book demonstration of insanity to continue to do so. Do you know what I like most about Windows 10 ?  The fact that it's NOT installed on my computer.

-- Ace --

on Jun 20, 2018

AceMatrix

Do you know what I like most about Windows 10 ?  The fact that it's NOT installed on my computer.

Ditto.... certainly not on my 'serious' computer that is actually intended to 'do stuff'.

The other 5 machines....they're fine.... they don't HAVE TO 'do stuff'....

on Jun 20, 2018

AceMatrix

Do you know what I like most about Windows 10 ? The fact that it's NOT installed on my computer.

 I'd like to be able to say that, but on this machine, my Hp 2-in-1, it was forced down my throat during Scheduled Maintenance during the middle of the night.  I went to bed happily with Win 8 and woke up grumpily to find I was force fed Win 10 while I was asleep.  The worst thing about it was that I couldn't roll back to Win 8 because all the backup files were deleted during 10's installation.  Now MS will say that they don't do this, but I'll swear on my left and right nut that they did.

As for my 2nd big Beastie, which currently is sitting idle due to necessary changes, I put Win 10 on that of my own volition... or should I say that I pre-empted MS's doing it and somehow not leaving me with a roll-back option.  I don't like Win 10 and I will set up both of my main machines with Win 8 when both are operational again using the OS discs.

For those who question my preference of Win 8 over 7, well I use Start8 with Windowblinds and find it no different to Win 7 to use.  Besides, I no longer have installation media for Win 7, while I now have 2 OS discs for Win 8.

on Jun 26, 2018

To those that are curious I have not found a solution to speeding it up, it still lags between boot up and password screen and even more when bringing up the desktop. However since it's only a few extra seconds I've learned to just bear with it. Here in a week or so I'm going to stuff another 4 GB down it's throat, so if having 8 GB installed will speed it up since DDR3 is getting cheaper. I did roll back to version 1709, a few tings are faster. If the RAM upgrade fails to deliver I might just buy a used Mac for cheap or install Linux. 

on Jun 26, 2018

I have a laptop with a slow CPU it peeks at 1.98 GHz,

but it has a solid state drive.

It boots much faster than any computer I have owned even a vaio that peeked at 3 GHz.

It also runs cool with no fan.