Published on July 29, 2018 By kona0197 In Personal Computing

So I finally got tired of the old computer being slow. Saved up some money and bought a new Dell. It has a dual core AMD 7th generation A6 CPU running at 2 GHZ but it can go higher, up to 2.7 GHz when it needs to, 4 GB DDR4, 500 GB hard drive, and Radeon graphics. It seems fast enough for my everyday tasks and games, but barely. No lag on startup, just a slight lag opening apps or new tabs in Chrome. Of course I used my copy of Windows 10 version 1604 and installed it over what came on the computer to get rid of the bloatware, than installed the latest drivers for all devices I knew needed them. Had to turn of some visual effects, I think that helped, but it's still not as fast a system as I would like. So I need help with the following options. Should I...

1. Buy a 256GB SSD and 4 GB of DDR4 RAM to speed up the system or...
2. Take it back to the store, spend another $200 to get something with at least a Core i3 CPU and 8 GB of RAM or...
3. Buy a Mac. I can get a 2010 model for about 300 with OSX Sierra installed with 4 GB of RAM and a 256 GB hard drive...

Keep in ind I have watched how to take this Dell apart on YouTube and install the RAM and SSD. Looks easy enough but I'm afraid I would foul something up. Local shop can get me a 256 GB SSD, install it, and clone my existing drive for $250. Not sure what to do here. The Mac sounds tempting...

Thanks guys..


Comments (Page 2)
on Jul 30, 2018

starkers

As I recall, Frogboy advocated upgrading with a SSD and said it was the most cost effective way to improve speed and performance.... and he's no fool when it comes to computer related matters.

Yep, he did ...and went on to M.2 drives then as that's even betterer...but won't be an option on that lappy...

on Jul 30, 2018



Quoting starkers,

As I recall, Frogboy advocated upgrading with a SSD and said it was the most cost effective way to improve speed and performance.... and he's no fool when it comes to computer related matters.



Yep, he did ...and went on to M.2 drives then as that's even betterer...but won't be an option on that lappy...

No, an M.2 would not be an option here, but a regular SSD would most certainly be a marked improvement on a 5400 RPM HDD.  The extra RAM could come later as Win 10 will operate on 4GB reasonably with the current CPU and a new SSD.  However, I would recommend the extra RAM later to increase system efficiency.

on Jul 30, 2018

Get the 4GB RAM and upgrade the CPU to i3 or i5, I think you can skip the SSD to be honest.

on Jul 30, 2018

Kinda hard to upgrade a CPU that's soldered into the board. I have sent a message to the local shop asking what labor cost there would be for installing the SSD and it looks like I can grab a 256GB Mushkin on Newegg for $60 or so I'll look into that option. I kinda like this Dell. 

on Jul 30, 2018

deltamind

and upgrade the CPU to i3 or i5

And how's he going to do that on a motherboard designed for AMD?

deltamind

I think you can skip the SSD to be honest.

Simply put, this is a low-end laptop with a motherboard that leaves little to no scope to upgrade the CPU or GPU, so other than a SSD and extra RAM, it is what it is.

To say forget about the SSD, obviously you've not done a HDD to SSD upgrade.  I have and the performance hit is significant.

on Jul 30, 2018

starkers

To say forget about the SSD, obviously you've not done a HDD to SSD upgrade.  I have and the performance hit is significant.

Particularly if the HD is a 5400...

on Jul 30, 2018

It's even better than moving from a ide drive to a raid drive. Which was a makedly better performance especially in gaming. Sorry stupid auto correct.

on Jul 30, 2018

Guys I know this notebook isn't a fast one but it's fast enough for me for the moment. Can't wait to see how fast it will work with the SSD and 8GB of DDR4. Here are some times I recorded for anyone that wants to know...

Booting from a complete shutdown to seeing the log on screen: 50 seconds
Time from entering the system password to a usable desktop with all background apps loaded: 3 seconds
Complete restart from the Windows desktop back to the log on screen: 1 minute, 55 seconds
Open Microsoft Word: 12 seconds
Open Chrome and load 5 tabs from previous session: 23 seconds
Open Facebook in chrome - the most memory intensive website I visit: 4 seconds
Open Hoyle Card Games 2013 - The newest game I own: 18 seconds
Open Windows Mail - 11 seconds

It's not unbearable, I know it could be better. But it's faster than the old HP I had a month ago. Maybe a newer dual core system has better cores than an old quad core system. Seems faster. But it's AMD so it runs hot, around 95 degrees. :/

on Jul 30, 2018

kona0197

so it runs hot, around 95 degrees. :/

If that's 'F' then fine....if it's 'C' then DO NOT EVER USE IT ....

on Jul 31, 2018

kona0197

Can't wait to see how fast it will work with the SSD and 8GB of DDR4.

Yeah, those upgrades would see a performance increase.  Thing is, you don't have to do both at once.  The RAM would be the more expensive, so if you can't afford it straight up, you could always wait and just get the SSD to start.  That in itself would see a significant boost while you save for the DDR4... which has also seen a drop in price in recent months.

Anyhow, kona, all the best with it.  

on Aug 01, 2018

OK guys, if your willing to put up with the bad music and length here is a video of my model being upgraded. I'm OK getting the screws and keyboard out, but those little ribbon cables might be too tricky. The local shop wants $50 to do it but the thought of someone else upgrading the system scares me a bit. What if they screw it up?

Dell 15-3000 Hard Drive Replacement

on Aug 01, 2018

Don't worry about taking your machine to a techie, they do this stuff all the time and would likely do a more efficient job quicker than you could.

And 50 bucks is pretty decent, so me, I'd go for it.