Dear Microsoft...

Published on October 29, 2012 By kona0197 In Personal Computing

So I see they came out with a tablet that runs Windows 8. I was just curious if they think they have a chance to carve out a section in the tablet market when Android owns most of the market. Apple tried with the iPad and failed. Good luck Microsoft.

Comments (Page 3)

moshi

on Oct 30, 2012

Android owns most of the market. Apple tried with the iPad and failed.

any numbers to back this up then?

DrJBHL

on Oct 30, 2012

Jafo - the iPad is just great, so there are lines for it. Early adopters? MS has them too. So did SSDs. They're more like social events, anyway.

As I said, I hope both succeed. I just happen to like my iPad more than other devices I looked at back then. I might like an Android as well. I don't like W8. That's just me.

We were talking tablets, btw... not phones. The iPhone leaves me cold.

moshi

reply 26

you interpret this statistic wrong.

of course males buy more iPads. males buy more Samsung Galaxy tabs (and more Ferraris or Porsches) as well. maybe females buy more Kindles, but that device is more an ebook reader than a tablet.

i am pretty sure that females buy more iPads than Android devices.

my statement was a little ironic. i actually agree with Rolocolor that more expensive devices are bought as a status symbol. and there is nothing wrong with that. most things that men do are done to impress females. and most females are attracted by potent men.

i can see that is can be interpreted as insulting in the western societies you and i live in. our politically correct, "white", gender equality mainstream society is a shrinking minority anyways and more or less ridiculed worldwide (i travel at least twice a year).

@moshi... if you care to disregard the facts, that's your concern. I'm misinterpreting nothing. Your bias is obvious. The facts are the facts. Also, females are buying more tech than males:

http://mashable.com/2012/01/09/women-and-technology/

Jafo

on Oct 30, 2012

DrJBHL

reply 32

We were talking tablets, btw... not phones.

Oops...got sidetracked.

I'm sure the percentage domination of the iPad will only go 'down'. There IS no other direction for them.

Jafo

on Oct 30, 2012

DrJBHL

reply 32

They're more like social events, anyway.

It's called insidious advertising for a reason, Doc....

Hankers

on Oct 30, 2012

kona0197

reply 24

Yet it can't even do something as simple as run Flash

There is a browser that will run flash on the iPad.

Anyways, you like them you don't like them it still boils down to USER CHOICE.

I just don't understand the iHaters bitching all the time that Apple is bad, Android is better or Windows is better and their penis size is bigger.

Get over it. You get what you want and can afford and be happy with it.

Jafo

on Oct 30, 2012

http://betanews.com/2012/06/18/would-you-believe-android-tablet-adoption-is-even-with-ipad/

DrJBHL

on Oct 30, 2012

It might... or not. Depends on the market, and on the offering. If Apple offers more for the buck in service (which is fantastic), equipment and ecosystem...they'll go on winning. If MS gets its game on and provides good service, lots of apps and superior equipment - they'll succeed as well. The percentages of which company has more or less become less significant as more and more go mobile. There's more than enough revenue for all.

The biggest problem for Android is that malware has increased exponentially for it through its apps which do not have the scrutiny which Apple's do.

One thing is good... on MS's side: The Surface with W8 Pro will be a hybrid which will compete across markets... MS fails only in that W8 isn't meant for desktops... and not for business. That will undo all that Gates did, eventually. The Cloud, in its present form cannot replace private ownership of storage devices and programs. They will, however, try to obliterate that in order to rent you the space and apps from the cloud, renting (as it were) you what you need the most.

DrJBHL

on Oct 30, 2012

kona0197

reply 24

Yet it can't even do something as simple as run Flash.

It certainly does: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/skyfire-web-browser-your-path/id384941497?mt=8

Why not check before making such claims, kona...or at least ask?

kona0197

on Oct 30, 2012

It doesn't run Flash natively like a computer does where you can install it. It relies on a browser. That was my point.

Thank you Jafo. Good numbers.

DrJBHL

on Oct 30, 2012

It doesn't NEED to run it natively, and that wasn't what you wrote. It's only needed to display webpages correctly (unfortunately) so it's only really needed in a browser and that compromises webpage security and browser security.

moshi

on Oct 30, 2012

DrJBHL

reply 32

@moshi... if you care to disregard the facts, that's your concern. I'm misinterpreting nothing. Your bias is obvious. The facts are the facts. Also, females are buying more tech than males:

http://mashable.com/2012/01/09/women-and-technology/[/quote]

this is a study in the U.S. done with 2000 people. such a study would be representative for a country of the size of Belgium. for the U.S. there would be a standard deviation (if this is the correct translation for Schwankungsbreite) of about 20%.

the study was mandated by HSN. result is not really surprising then.

moshi

on Oct 30, 2012

Jafo

reply 36

http://betanews.com/2012/06/18/would-you-believe-android-tablet-adoption-is-even-with-ipad/

those numbers are weird.

Blackberry Playbook 8% ????

those must have been stolen from a Chinese factory. RIM didn't even ship that much. http://www.rim.com/investors/documents/pdf/pressrelease/2012/Q2_press_release.pdf

Hankers

on Oct 30, 2012

Jafo

reply 36

http://betanews.com/2012/06/18/would-you-believe-android-tablet-adoption-is-even-with-ipad/

Not based on actual units sold but is based on a survey.

"But I'm skeptical and have a couple problems with the data; timing is most significant concern. Frank N. Magid Associates conducted the survey -- 2,540 Internet users ages 8 to 64 -- for OPA between March 19 - 26."

BernieTime

on Oct 30, 2012

Island Dog

reply 16

Quoting Roloccolor, reply 11is that bc its a very good product ? or bc of the hype to be one of the lemmings that have a iphone an inano, ipod, ipad im unsure ID.
I see the "i" things mostly as a gimmic

I believe over 50% of Americans have an Apple product, the myth that it's just a select few "lemmings" has been thrown out the window.

Like it or not, Apple makes good hardware and software, has a great app ecosystem, and is easy to use.

I would dispute the good hardware part, at least from a support standpoint. Doing repair on an Apple device is about a much fun as getting a root canal.

BernieTime

on Oct 30, 2012

@Jafo One inaccuracy I see with that chart is HP Touchpad runs WebOS, not Android.

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