It's taken me awhile to start this thread, sorry. I know this may end up in flame wars. Again I am sorry.

So everyone knows my situation. Well those close to me on this site do. My computer is finally showing signs of how old it truly is. Keep in mind my computer has a Pentium 4 processor so I am guessing this setup to be almost ten years old. The problem, even after a few friends helped me here with a new hard drive and more memory, is the rest of the system. The processor can't keep up with the newer operating systems. I'm having a hard time just running XP. Found out the other day my DVD Burner drive is almost dead as it will read disc sometimes and other times it will not. Monitor is on it's last legs as well. Hard to read anything and the brightness is going out. It's an old CRT Dell monitor that is almost as old as the tower.

As Starkers had told you this computer is my main way to communicate with the things that are important in my life. So I was hoping someone out there had a few newer parts I could install to extend the life of the machine a bit. Nothing special. I already have DDR2 memory and a newer hard drive. Just need a few other things.

So carry on. Discuss I guess.


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on Feb 13, 2013

kona0197
Well up here in Oregon in the Summer it rarely even gets into the 90s. Would not just the CPU fan and PSU fan suffice?

No, you still need adequate ventilation and fans to circulate the air, otherwise stagnant air will heat, thus causing your components to heat, and you don't want that.  I would try to discover which fan/fans are the noisiest and see if you can't swap them with fans from your old case or the other one Doortech sent you.  I mean, if this is your main rig and the other cases are spare, I'd cannibalise those for quieter fans to get the best result for the primary beastie.  Oh, and be sure to enable Cool & Quiet to help reduce CPU heat.

I see that the CPU scores well in the WEI, which makes me happier that I decided upon the 920 quad core instead of the dual core I first thought to send.  In fact, Windows 8 would probably run fairly well on that setup, and I doubt the video card would have much bearing on its performance over all, so if you're not running higher end games it should serve you well for some time to come.

on Feb 13, 2013

could just be the make of the fans also. Is the case you are using vented on both sides? If not and the thermal take is, switch, it would allow the board and cpu to cool from underneath also, big difference. I do not use my quiet cool, personal preference.Do you have specs on the cpu for wattage? we can get the board wattage to make sure its compatible. Very slim chance this is a heat issue though. Definitely check the direction, easily mixed up. Wet you finger, hold paper in front of it, or something similar, to verify direction. Pull air in from the side, out the back. Make sure its not wedged in a corner. If you could move it to the floor under a desk, would be quieter and cooler?Just a suggestion. Did you find a cpu alarm? I would just until you get cooling figured.I would suggest if you have extra slots in the front of the case for disk drives and such, take out a plug, or faceplate, to let air flow from the front.

on Feb 13, 2013

our posts crossed paths, sorry to ask things you answered already. Does pinching up on the psu unit change the pitch of the noise at all? If so, could shim between case with some cushion.The psu could be rattling the case too. The fans in the psu might be cheap brand?I would try that other case , up to you though. I will do some research on that board wattage and cpu wattage . If by some chance its wrong, it could cause excessive heat.

on Feb 13, 2013

I see vents on the bottom of that case also, could tou put something under the corners to raise it up and let air in.?

on Feb 13, 2013

That is a typo. Could you put!

on Feb 13, 2013

Well, the cpu is 125 watt, so I would not worry there. Only if it was to small. Kinda funny sidebar, Asus boasts that board as a fanless design, and your having heat issues. Gotta be the case, try the THERMAL TAKE, IE, THERMAL, .

on Feb 13, 2013

You misunderstand. I'm not having heat issues. I'm having excessive noise issues. The CPU stays right around 120F. Just a fan that's a bit loud. I might have to get used to it. After all the Pentium 4 setup only had three fans, one CPU fan, a 80mm PSU fan, along with an 80mm rear fan. It was very quiet, almost the point you could not tell it was on.

Anyone seen Ace? This would not have been possible without him. Hope I didn't step on his toes.

on Feb 13, 2013

kona0197
You misunderstand. I'm not having heat issues. I'm having excessive noise issues. The CPU stays right around 120F. Just a fan that's a bit loud.

One and the same.....as CPU temps rise, the cpu fan increases in speed.....120F is somewhat on the hot side, the cpu fan is most likely running full tilt.....on that size fan most likely 2500+/-  rpm

kona0197
I might have to get used to it. After all the Pentium 4 setup only had three fans, one CPU fan, a 80mm PSU fan, along with an 80mm rear fan. It was very quiet, almost the point you could not tell it was on.

That's like comparing apples to oranges......the Pen4 wasn't a quad core 125 watt processor and didn't draw any where near the amount of current/wattage.

 

 

on Feb 13, 2013

OK I rebooted the machine. Why does it always seems like it takes longer for Windows to boot after Windows has been updated? After a clean install it seems like Windows boots faster.

Here is some info from BIOS:

CPU temp: 113F

Motherboard temp: 96F

CPU fan speed: 2045 RPM

Front 120mm fan speed: 2083 RPM

Rear 80mm fan speed: 1326 RPM

on Feb 13, 2013

Well within specs. Get used to higher powered PSU's and CPU's and even that little gfx card that need those fans to stay alive. I've worked on many old rigs with only a single fan on the PSU, period and even more with that and a tiny CPU fan.  Passive cooling is a thing of the past.

I have 7 fans running on my rig.  PSU-2, CPU-1, GFX-1, case-3. Only the 80mm front fan (a Rosewill replacement) came with a speed controller and it was on sale for 5 bucks at Newegg. It's when they stop making noise that I'll worry.

on Feb 13, 2013

Wizard1956
It's when you stop making noise that I'll worry.

on Feb 14, 2013

One of my hobbies is building speed machines - as in Desktop Computers. The one I'm using right now has 12 fans and a water cooling radiator system to cool the CPU. This machine presently is benchmarking within the top 16 systems globally. I'm working on another build right now, I would love to benchmark to within at least 5 of the top machines globally. It can be a very expensive endeavor, so sometimes it takes me forever to get the parts I need, but it's always worth it once you fire it up and start burning up the charts in the benchmark categories. I've never had issues with noise, despite the numerous fans I always use, but I would say that a noisy fan is not good. That's usually an indication that the bearings are seriously worn and their efficiency is plummeting. Not good for the related hardware. You can never have too many fans. Heat should always be your number one concern, just as the oil level is in your automobile. It's a hidden killer stalking you everytime you boot-up.               -- Ace --

on Feb 14, 2013

as much as i dislike thermaltake, use the case ace sent you instead of the generic one seen in those pics. price was the main objective in the design of the case you're using, not thermal properties and/or air flow. i guarantee the thermaltake will have better airflow and fans. also, there'se no way a 120 mm fan makes more noise than (2) 80 mm fans. that's almost impossible. i will admit that cpu fan is probably pretty noisy when it's a full speed. 

on Feb 14, 2013

I don't have enough fans to plug up all of the fan holes cut in the side of the Thermaltake case. There are many fans missing and the front has missing plates that cover vacant DVD-RW drives. I think that would let in to much dust, would it not?Currently the CPU is sitting at 91F in this case, not bad I guess. I will look into it. I think investing in more fans, better, silent ones would be what I need to do. This generic case is setup to handle 6 120mm or 6 80mm fans, 2 in the front, two on the side, one on the bottom, one in the rear. I think airflow will not be an issue. As for the Thermaltake case I was going to use it with another project if that's OK.

I found that the 120mm front fan is the loudest of the bunch. So I going to replace it it with something quieter. The CPU fan is always at full speed as far as I know. It is pretty loud.The PSU fan is really loud as well.

I was playing with Windows 8 in Virtualbox last night. Anyone care to tell me how Windows 8 went online and grabbed my Facebook pictures to browse through when the email I used with Windows 8 is not connected to my Facebook account in any way? That's kind of disturbing to think Windows is hacking into my Facebook account.

Ace you mentioned your machine is in the top 16 machines globally for benchmarking. Very impressive. Thank you for all you have done for me, I greatly appreciate it.

By the way did you ever notice a long lag between the time you powered on the system till the time the system would post? It seems there is a lag of almost a minute there. Windows 7 has been slow to boot as well. Used to be fast, then I installed SP1 and boot times slowed down to over two minutes.

Hey DoorTech you said something about fans? What did you have?

As always thank you everyone. This machine is far more than I expected to be using when I first started this thread. It's a blessing, and I am very grateful.

 

on Feb 14, 2013

kona, if you are wanting fans, I suggest these.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200028

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200027

1: They are inexpensive but reliable. The fan controller alone is worth the price.

2: They have speed controls that mount in the expansion slots so you can turn them down to a whisper

3: Ball bearings-quieter than sleeve bearings and last longer

4: They light up a very pretty blue (they dim as the speed is turned down)

5: Free shipping

I have the 80mm in the front of my CoolerMaster case and it is quieter than the original even at full speed. I'm going to replace the rear 120mm with one also.

As for the holes in the front of the case, don't you have an old DVD/CD drive you can use to fill the hole(s)?

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