Correct me if I am wrong, but if you sell a computer with Windows installed you must include the Windows CD/DVD and the PC must have a legit COA sticker right?

Where is that in the EULA?

Trying to prove a point to a guy selling several computers on Craigslist using the same DVD and key for all of them.


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on May 04, 2014

you must include the Windows CD/DVD

Wrong. PCs do not come with a disc. That is sooooo 1990's....

 

They come with recovery drives now, Terry.

 

But he shouldn't be selling them, plural, all with the same key, it can only be legally used on one. Unless it's a VLK (volume license key) in which case his selling it would be illegal.

 

If the guy on CL is just an individual selling off a few used PCs (or newly built, for that matter), I know of no rule/law that says the PC needs to have any such sticker on it. Especially if, like mine, they're PCs he built himself.

on May 04, 2014

No, these are Dell computers he bought after a few companies upgraded. They have 2 year old hardware. He says he uses the same disc to install Windows 7 on them, then sells them on Craigslist.

I'm just curious what the EULA says so I can tell him.

on May 04, 2014

Simple..........One key, one computer...........

on May 04, 2014

Yeah that's what I thought. It's obvious these computers came with Vista. They are running Core 2 Duo CPUs. Old stuff. Where in the EULA does it say that so I can tell him?

on May 04, 2014

Page one....

 

2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS.

a. One Copy per Computer.

You may install one copy of the software on one computer. That computer is the "licensed computer."

b. Licensed Computer.

You may use the software on up to two processors on the licensed computer at one time. Unless otherwise provided in these license terms, you may not use the software on any other computer.

c. Number of Users.

Unless otherwise provided in these license terms, only one user may use the software at a time.

on May 05, 2014

kona0197
No, these are Dell computers he bought after a few companies upgraded. They have 2 year old hardware. He says he uses the same disc to install Windows 7 on them, then sells them on Craigslist.

Using the same disc to install them is fine as long as he's using a different CD key on each machine.

on May 05, 2014

You can buy multiple Keys from MS and use the same disc to upgrade each PC.. but each one would need it's own Key-code. Computer shops do it all the time..

on May 05, 2014

Report him to Microsoft. Let them work it out.

on May 05, 2014

Here's another kicker..

Back when XP was still being installed on Dell systems, you could NOT activate the key that was on the sticker unless you used the Dell OS installation CD/DVD. 

Not sure if they carried that on with Vista or not. I know for a fact that now, the key is burned in to the motherboard and will not require activation in the traditional sense. Once again, I sincerely doubt that this is the case with these systems.

The above comments are fact though. 1 key, 1 pc.

on May 05, 2014

I can't begin to tell you how many flea markets I have gone to and each has had a guy with a table selling used PC's with almost any version of Windows on it. I always wondered about the legal issues of that.

I would think if they have the knowledge to restore and clean up old PC's to sell, the would avoid all that and all the update crap, etc., and just put some version of linux on them.

on May 06, 2014

and just put some version of linux on them

Blasphemer...

on May 06, 2014

Illauna

Report him to Microsoft. Let them work it out.

I think MS might have enough on its hands, what with millions upon millions of illegal downloads of Win 7 and Win 8, using just a handful of product keys and/or activation cracks to run them.  Apparently MS is looking into an instance of 2.7 million illegal downloads of Windows 8 that involves just the one license key.

Makes no sense running pirated Windows... so glad I got my copies if Win 8 when they were going for 40 bucks.

on May 06, 2014

starkers
Apparently MS is looking into an instance of 2.7 million illegal downloads of Windows 8 that involves just the one license key.

Makes me wonder what the point is of the pain-in-the-neck activation process.

on May 06, 2014

DaveRI


Quoting starkers, reply 12Apparently MS is looking into an instance of 2.7 million illegal downloads of Windows 8 that involves just the one license key.



Makes me wonder what the point is of the pain-in-the-neck activation process.

Once activated and your copy of Windows is authenticated, you are then entitled to all the downloads and updates available for your particular version.  A pirate copy does not qualify for these benefits and misses out on various security patches and etc.   Like I said, it makes no sense to go with a pirated version... one would be left vulnerable without those security updates.

on May 06, 2014

Starkers, I think you misunderstood me - I meant it doesn't seem to be achieving the desired result - stopping the o/s leaches. 

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