Published on December 7, 2021 By kona0197 In WinCustomize Talk

So over the last month I have tried Windows 11 about 5 times. Each time I tried it for a few days. My computer is less then a year old and meets all the requirements to run 11. However, it's just not ready for me to use as a daily driver. Here's why:

* System colors. The taskbar is set in 11 to be all black. Yet it never shows up as a true black like in 10, it's always just one or two shades lighter. Using the latest video drivers from Intel for my Intel 610 integrated graphics card did not work. The system has no issues showing a true black in 10. 
*Taskbar icons. On 10 the 9 apps I have pinned to the taskbar show up as super detailed high definition icons. On 11 they look like 16 bit video game quality icons, grainy, and out of focus. This by far is my biggest gripe. 
* Fonts. I usually set the fonts to large on 10 because in my old age my eyesight is going south. In 10, everything is made bigger. In 11, even with the font upsized, the clock, trash bin context menu, and desktop text is so small I can't read it without turning on a magnifying assistant. 
* Folders. In 10 the contents of a folder or shown as thumbnails. 11 did away with that. While I am sure I could get used to it over time, I much prefer the folders in my File Explorer to show a thumbnail or two to give me a hint of what's inside. 
* Boot times. 11 boots quick, but going from the login screen to the desktop takes 3 times longer then 10. Not really a deal breaker, just very aggravating. 
* Start menu. I have no use for a Start Menu that just has pinned apps and recent documents. In 10 I get rid of the live tiles and shrink the app list down so when I click on Start all I get is a list of apps. I did solve this issue by purchasing Start11. 

So I'm just gonna use 10 for the foreseeable future until they fix the issues I have. I assume down the road a newer version of 11 will work better along with an updated video driver. 

Is anyone else sticking to 10?


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on Dec 16, 2021

I don't have to worry about 11 as my machine doesn't meet requirements. Still performs quite well so no worries here.

on Dec 16, 2021

kona0197

RedneckDude this is what I am talking about. Thumbnails inside the folders, giving a hint of what's inside. Windows 11 doesn't do this. 


 

Microsoft will not fix this on build 22000. Thumbnails in folders will be back on 23H1 (yes 2023) or later.

on Dec 17, 2021

PhoenixRising1

Are you saying your file explorer fix can make Windowblinds 10 work in Windows 11 as that would be a bit of a coup, not even the developers of WB 10 have come up with a usable WB beta that can do that.

Right now i have uninstalled Start 11 as there is no working WB for Win 11, now using something similar myself as  UltraUXThemePatcher has added support for Windows 11 and a lot of the themes now have an add on (Old New Explorer) allowing those of us who need to use Win 11(need to offer Win 11 support for my job) lots of themes almost as good as Windowblinds 10, so much so the only thing i miss from WB10 is the system colour changer tool.

on Dec 17, 2021

naroon1

I didn't even think to try that. But you talked me into it. I downloaded a free trial of windows blinds and attached is a screenshot of what I ended up with and the settings I used with explorerpatcher

Note, I have not actually used windows blinds before this trial so you be the judge. And yes this is windows 11 I am using

on Dec 17, 2021

Hi PhoenixRising1.

I should have been more clear. The main problem using WB10 in Windows 11 is all about Explorer and how different the ribbon at the top is between the two.

Windowblinds 10 can be installed on a Windows 11 system as a lot of us have tested it out, but explorer almost each time it is opened crashes . I and stardock and a few others would be interested in seeing how far you can take this, if you have the time can you test out more skins and see how stable explorer remains.

 

Stardock maybe not be able to work this out even though other theme makers have created add ons , yourself with explorerpatcher and myself using Old/New Explorer and can make things work, i am sure someone will jump in and say this or that.

The skin you are using is a basic one from your image, any chance you can test this on other more Robust skins, something much darker or something far removed from what looks like a simple Skin, maybe one that makes the desktop look very different from the one posted.

 

This is intriguing and i am very interested in your results, so please do not see my reply as any kind of criticism as it is not, you seem to be moving with the times, Windows 11 is here to stay so what you and others are doing is just keeping up with what's new, if it is ok i will pm you.

on Dec 17, 2021

So WB10 works on Windows 11 22000 ?

on Dec 17, 2021

naroon1,

I have been doing quite a bit of testing on it in regards to adjusting transparency, color darkness, and even font. I have also been tinkering with explorerpatcher to see what happens as things are adjusted on that end.

My findings are that any skin modification that I have done works just fine with the file explorer. I have not had one single crash as long as the settings are adjusted as I have posted in explorerpatcher.

I have also found one variable that is causing the explorer crash...

In the explorerpatcher options under file explorer options

Disable the windows 11 command bar* absolutely needs to check marked to yes.

In fact the file explorer crashed almost every time when the command bar was active, only when it is marked as inactive has windows blinds worked.

So, command bar and windows blinds appear to be the issue in my testing

on Dec 17, 2021

Robert84MK

So WB10 works on Windows 11 22000 ?

I have got windows blinds to work with windows 11.

explorerpatcher https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher is required to make this happen

once installed command bar must be disabled under the options

on Dec 17, 2021

If WB works then Curtains will works ?

on Dec 17, 2021

My best guess would be yes. I would actually be surprised if it didn't when using the same method. Someone else's turn to test it out though   

on Dec 17, 2021

PhoenixRising1


Quoting Jafo,

But you are right...skipping Vista was 'a thing' ...particularly for me...when I couldn't find a modem driver...so I could get online...and update the....wait for it....modem driver.



Oh boy, I had that problem wiped from my brain. And back then that was a big problem. Usually we had one pc, no smart phones yet and 2 options.

1. Wait a few days until you could get to another pc and hope they have "open" internet access or

2, and my personal fate, take out your old OS CD's and completely reinstall the old OS. Of course there was also several driver CD's that also needed installed separately to get the PC running. Next step search for driver's and hope and pray you find the correct one and save it. And then reinstall the new OS. Now if you have the correct driver you now have internet access. But if for some reason it is the wrong driver then repeat this whole process...

 

 

God you just brought back some memories,lol! I remember those days well.  I finally threw away my install discs for WIndows and Microsoft Office for a computer i probably haven't had for 15 years when I cleaned out my storage this summer. Remember the free discs in every store for Netscape and AOL? Now modern problems for me is every darn thing in my house is connected to the web. If my internet goes down nothing works! 

on Dec 18, 2021

PhoenixRising1

Well you have only gone and done it, followed your info to the letter and WOW   Windowblinds 10 fully working on Windows 11 Enterprise latest Build

 

Win 11 with WB10 working

on Dec 19, 2021

Using the method posted by PhoenixRising1 , i can confirm many older masterskins created for older OSs will work, still not able to completely solve the transparency issue but feel it may just be a setting i am missing in one or more of the 3 Programs

Start11

Explorer Patcher

Windowblinds

on Jan 08, 2022

Hello, I tested windows 11 and I can boldly say that I am still using windows 10 because windows 11 looks artificial and there is no such climate for me, but unfortunately in 3 years we will all have to have it

on Jan 08, 2022

albins04

Hello, I tested windows 11 and I can boldly say that I am still using windows 10 because windows 11 looks artificial and there is no such climate for me

I didn't mind the look of 11 so much, in fact I sort of liked it, but sadly the machine I tested it on wasn't able to run it properly.  There was a lot of lag and unresponsiveness so I switched back to 10 for ease of use and a speedier machine.

albins04

unfortunately in 3 years we will all have to have it

Well before then my main PCs will be back on line and I will be able to run 11 more efficiently.  They would have been up and running sooner than this, but I've had some major distractions and haven't had a chance to work on my new desk setup where they will go.  Hopefully in the next few days.

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