I think those daft people at Microsoft need to be sent a message.  Keep desktop computing separate from their daft tablets and phones.

Windows 8; never.  I would rather go over to Linux full time.

Those numbers don't count laptop/tablet hybrids and the like, which have been great sellers.  It also doesn't take into account the horrible economy and people have less income to spend on upgrades.

Epic fail....lol.

I think Windows 8 is only an epic fail to those who want it to be... those who fear/hate change.

For those who are happily using Win 8, it is a success and a pleasure to use.

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MadDeez

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Same here, John, they're a step in the right direction, but sadly the wowsers, wooses and detractors appear to be in the majority and the best thing to happen to Windows hasn't had an easy introduction.

I do believe those are covered under asset production.

I for one don't do asset production on my computer. I run business software (quickbooks, excel, word, cad viewers, etc.) and need multiple programs on my screen at once. Not to mention, I also game while I work (I'm the boss), so many times I'll have a window of CivV or some other game running as well.

At least with Modern Mix Windows8 is now an option for me. Prior to that, I was not going to "upgrade" to Win8. My plan was to go back to building computers and installing Win7 on them.

I completely understand MS wanting to have this new format available. I have no understanding whatsoever of how they try to block us who need or want the more productive older format.

You can run multiple programs with W8, no need for third part software...it is just like windows 7...

You can have games like Civ V run in one window and have other problems run in another...you can quickly get side-by-side windows just like you can in Windows 7...you will have no problem having multiple Excel, Word, etc files open and on screen at the same time...

The only things that cannot be displayed onscreen simultaneously are the W8 "apps" which you probably would not be using anyway...these are the special apps designed for people on phones or tablets, and include things like a special "mail" app or "weather" app (the same things you would see on an iphone or ipad)....

W8 is not a failure of software, it is a failure of advertisement...for example, people read statements like "you can't have 2 apps open at once" and immediately think W8 does not allow you to run 2 programs on the same screen (one could not be farther from the truth)...Microsoft has not failed in creating a solid product, but rather has failed at being louder than the W8 critics who have made false or ambiguous claims....claims that, unfortunately, have facilitated misinformation....

Absolutely the tanked economy is in my opinion a much larger reason as to the overall decline in PC sales.  People are 'making do' these days, where pre 2008 they might have upgraded.

The computational landscape has also changed.  I personally do the least of my production on a desktop these days.  With smartphone/tablet data plans finally good enough to even be able to stream movies while on the move (driving to/from the lake for instance) it is no wonder that people choose to be more mobile these days.  The hit to overall performance while using these 'smaller devices' is often mitigated by the fact that (save for a few specialized applications where the larger the screen the better) one no longer needs to sit behind a desk at all. 

I predict the future doesn't hold a resurgence of PC sales at all.  Keep in mind I'm not suggesting that PC sales will decline into nothing, I just believe other newer tech and tech-options will continue to take their place in the marketplace, leaving less and less room for the venerable PC to occupy on its own.  Regardless of what new OS MS is dreaming up for us next the PC is no longer enjoying the computational landscape on its own as it once was.

Thanks for the correction, I did indeed believe that. So it would seem the only thing I really need to like Win8 is just start8, and I suppose ModernMix if I were to end up using any apps.

I would still stand by my claims of not giving us a choice of not loading the tablet-centric looking main screen. Hell, make it the default even, just give people who don't like it an available option directly from MS, rather than having to go to Stardock for a fix.

You do not have to use the applets. you use your own software. I don't know where people are getting the idea that you have to use metro app's.

The start menu is nothing more than a start menu that's all. The only time I see the start menu is when I open a program that I do not have a shortcut for it on my desktop.

Every program I used on windows 7 "except windowblinds" I use on windows 8. when you click a program icon it takes you back to the desktop just like the old start menu. unless you are using the applets. Me I uninstalled every applet as soon as I installed windows 8. so nothing on my computer runs but real software.

windows 8 runs the way you choose.

I started with MS DOS 3.0 in 1984 and have upgraded to and used every version of MS DOS and Windows since then.  My computers normally run 24/7 and I have not had a OS Systems crash since the release of Windows XP.  

Over the years I've heard a lot of negatives about the different versions of Windows. From my experience, I have found that most of them have been false.  Maybe it is because I have never tried to run an OS on a computer that wasn't way above the required specs.  Maybe it is that I research how to do something before I complain that the OS can't do it.  

I have been running Win 8 Pro 64 on 2 computers, since it's release date. Ive been able to do everything that I want to do with it. Win 8 loads faster and it allows me to use all 32gb of ram as ram which Win 7 64 would not do. I can boot up to desktop and open as many windows as I want. My wife missed the start button, so I spent $5 at Stardock and purchased Start 8, which works better than Win 7 start.  If you want to run the Modern Apps in separate windows, Stardock sells Modern Mix for $5. 

Win 8 has not failed.  Users have failed to keep up with proper hardware and/or have become too lazy to learn how to use the software (good thing you didn't have to learn MS-Dos. If I would have listened to all these Doom-sayers, I would have missed out on some great OS's.     

I'd never trash 7, it was great.  Maybe Vista deserved the hate, maybe it didn't.  I liked it.  It had a rough start though.  XP though?  The amount of features it's missing now and the amount of work since into using more than one core, networking, app/driver/OS stability and new features like D2D/D3D11...long past time to ditch XP.

Maybe 8.1 will right at least some wrongs.

Exactly right, Win 8 is a great OS and betters Win 7 in both speed and stability.  Trouble is, it suffered the same fate as Vista, with media and various 'experts' shooting it down in flames during the beta versions, and from there Win 8 had an uphill battle to gain ground with a public that had taken the so-called experts words as gospel, many of them without even trying it.

As for being too lazy to learn new software/new ways of doing things, a lot of the time it comes down to: "I've been doing it this way for x amount of years now and I'm not about to change for anyone."  Sometimes it comes down to a fear of change, but more often than not it comes down to arrogance: "What I got ain't broke, so don't bother trying to fix it for me."

I will admit there are aspects of Win 8 I'm not fussed about, the stripping of Aero, for example, but on the whole it is a solid OS and I've learned to live with those small inconveniences... they do not prevent me from doing anything important, so obviously they're not deal breakers.  In fact, I've heard numerous complaints about what Win 8 can't do.... bla, bla, bla, but there isn't anything I could do in Win 7 that I can't do in Win 8.

Okay, So I can't apply WindowBlinds as yet, but I recall there being waiting periods for Vista and Win 7 compatibility. I can still perform all the tasks I could in Win 7 so it's not like the end of the world and I can wait.